Nathan Natas, I have to be so bold as to ask you... Are you insane?
LoisLane looking for Superman
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What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?
by Phizzy inmrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..
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Automatic Love
by TheFadingAlbatros injehovah's witnesses have a kind of automatic love for all their other co-religionists all around the world.. this kind of attachment can only be the result of a cult machinations.. real love needs real freedom, a strong personal motivation and enough time to be fully developed.. .
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LoisLane looking for Superman
My dearest Claude, With tears in my eyes, reading your 3rd paragraph and the newspaper article, it is too sad. Too horrible. I am so, so sorry for your loss.
Would you mind starting a new post, with a different heading, saying you have lost your most beloved son due to a tragic accident?
You are in Switzerland, I am in North America. I do not quite understand the heading of automatic love. Do you mean if you are an active JDub you will get phony love and sympathy from the KHall people but if you do not go, then these JDub zombies (automations) will shun and turn their backs on you, as though you and your precious son never existed? Remember JDubs are WT zombies with, for the most part no feelings. They are trained (every week through meetings and literature to think and act a certain WT way) by brainwashing. They do not think for themselves. They are controlled by those 7 little men behind the curtain in New York. If this is what you mean by automatic love, and that the JW's in your area who know you and your son, act like nothing has happened because he did not go to their KHall? Where if they were normal human beings, they would mourn the loss with you, making meals, sending flowers to cheer you, hugging you and crying with you and making sure you were all right?
On your 2nd paragraph, I listened for a few minutes to this beautiful music and thought I would like to have a garden party and have Arabian Nights as the theme with this music.
Then I came to your 3rd paragraph and all the sadness of what just happened, came pouring out. I read the newspaper article. The man who killed your son, did a 'hit and run' and no one knows who he was. There is no one to pin his death on. No one to point a finger at and yell "You killed my son!!!" It is devastating. Just devastating.
It is such an unimagiative loss. A young man off on holiday, riding his bicycle, feeling happy and content. Then a bus driver makes the fateful decision to drive around him to get ahead. For what? If this bus driver is normal, his conscience will bother him for the rest of his life. What he has shown is that he is a coward for not coming forward and owning up for what he has done and at the least apolizying. He has caused enormous pain and death to another human being. Hopefully, someone will notice the wrecked front of his bus and turn him in.
Please accept the biggest heartfelt internet hug from me. The time ahead will be painful for you and all that knew your beloved son Jonathan. I can't imagine how horrible this daily nightmare is for you dear Claude. And please keep breathing, and living and please do not do anything foolish.
I am just so very sorry for your tragic loss. I give you my most heartfelt regards and sympathy for your unimagiative loss.
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Money and Happiness
by berrygerry inwt has made a number of references to this alleged quote by j. paul getty:.
“money doesn’t necessarily have any connection with happiness.
nothing in my wt life brought more stress and anxiety than not having enough money.. this quote makes far more sense:.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
Why does WT always conveniently forget the scripture that says money is for a protection Ecc 7:12?
What mind control thought does WT want its victims to think? Money is no good... So give it all to us! Even little kids ice cream money. Give It To JW..org... !!! Such creeps!!!
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It's about progress, not perfection...
by scratchme1010 ini guess at this point in time and space i'm ok if there's an indication of things going in the right direction.. my jw father, who joined the jws in 1973 when i was 8, has always had all the characteristics of the stereotypical brainwashed born again weirdo.
as a jw he always felt the need to show that he was more devoted than the rest of the crop.
to him, life became very easy from that point on: "the bible", interpreted by the millions of wt publications, along with the information in the meetings and getting involved in all jw activities, were the answer to everything and anything in his life".
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LoisLane looking for Superman
Wow. What a story. Very heartfelt. All I can say is you have done well with the "baggage" of your life. The way you wrote I can see your parents house and your dad preaching with his yellow vinyl clad Bible. Before your mom died, I wonder if they had bought, and used their 'tablet' at the Hall and meetings and door to door. And if and when the 'silver sword' came out not that long ago, if your dad switched from the old Bible to the new. It is all so sorrowful.
Sympathys to you that your mom has died. Normal people know from an early age, that people die. That is what plants, and animals, humans and even stars do. They die. Lights out. It is such a tragic doctrine that the JW..org bring to people to deceive them (isn't that what Satan did to Eve, deceive her?) I was of that same deluded persuasion only 5 years ago up until I read Ray Franz's CofC, Crisis of Conscience. Shortly before that, I had realized gay people were born that way and church people should shut their mouths... when they have no knowledge or understanding and nothing nice to say.
You have been put through the grinder, at no fault of your own. I am so sorry it has been that way for you. Hugs to you and your husband. I am so glad you found each other.
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Amazing Video, modern-day miracle: "Chairs for Thousands"
by neat blue dog ingod provides.
https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwb_201703_4_video.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
That was pitiful.
Painful.
God provided chairs... ?
Stephen Lett has lost weight. The neck of his shirt, gaps. Same stupid face though. Can't change stupid.
What age group is intended to be mesmerized by this moron?
Get a hook, and take this crook off the stage. Is JW..Org not embarrassed?
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A major misadventure!
by Bungi Bill inhi, everyone.. i haven't posted here much in quite a while, but having just been laid low by injury, i'll likely be a frequent visitor for some time to come!.
two weeks ago, i was involved in a workplace accident that left me with my lower l.h.
leg fractured in three places (the tibia and fibular both broken clean through, plus another crack in the "neck" of the fibular for good measure!
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LoisLane looking for Superman
Ouch!
Will you be in the hospital then for the next 3 months? Bed pans and everything?
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Elusive response from Japan's Branch
by yoko N inan active jw living in tokyo is expressing extreme hate in twitter to those who are in different religion, admirers of musicians, those who love toplay air soft guns.. linkpeople who saw it got angry and exposed his real name,congregation where his associating with, his address, his professionon the internet.. linkthis guy wouldn’t stop expressing hate, so somebody spread softdrinks and gambages in front of the porch of his house.causing some uproar.some jws are writing, calling,sending fax to japan’s branch office tostop this man,because this cause bad reputation about jws as a whole.. branch office keep denying accepting letter, fax.they are saying they don’t know anything about the disturbance.a little newspaper on the internet wrote the article about this,.
linkand branch offices finally admitted accepting a letter of complaint.--------“ did you accept the letter we sent you?branch :yes-----did you read it?branch: no, man in charge should read it.---are you not in charge ?branch: no ------where the man in charge?branch: he is not available right now.. -------when can i talk to that person?
branch: i don’t knowthis kind of elusive conversation is going on and on and on.growing number of people is aware of the incident,and calling to the branch.disgusted of their elusive attitude.this keeps going.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
So for clarification, is this what you want to share with us?
1. An active JW is posting on an exJW site trying to refute the truth that exJW's understand and comphrend without the FOG effect? Fear Obligation Guilt
2. The active man who's face and address have been revealed is upset.
3. Who dumped the trash?
a. Active JW's
b. ExJw's
c. Unknown. Does not matter.
4. Active, humble, naive JW's think that what has been revealed on the exJW site are all lies?
a. So active JW's think exJW's are spreading lies and falsehoods on the internet and have contacted JW..org to do something about it?
b. So the big problem is that JW..org does not want to touch this because they will have to expose themselves as fraudsters and might lose "their people", the ones that give them money to support their rich life style.
c. JW..org is a sham of a religion. Calling themselves a Christian Charity based on the teachings of Christ is false.
d. JW..org is a world wide publishing house but their real money maker for them is in real estate development, built on free labor and other people's money. Buy land cheap. Call in for "volunteer" free labor. Build. Hold on for a while. Turn around and sell. JW..org then pockets the money and turns around asking active JW's to please give them more money, free labor... Wash and repeat.
e. JW..org does not care if children are sexually abused. Governing Body member Geoffrey Jackson lied on tape to the Judge at the Austrlian Royal Commission. When asked many questions all pertaining to the sexually abused JW children in Australia, he played naive, and would not directly, honestly, and humbly, as Christians are taught to do, answer the questions. He is a fraud. A liar. JW..org protects child molesters. This is a fact!
Child abuse is a world wide problem. Most people abhor child abuse and will do everything in their power to help poor, innocent, abused children. Not JW..org!
Good people with normal intelligence, can see that what Geoffrey Jackson did in Court was wrong! He kept smiling like an idiot! What would an idiot think? (I will not answer any question correctly and that way no one will sue me and I can continue to live in my brand new mansion by the Lake in up state New York. I also have chauffeurs. I am a Big Man and I did not even have to go to College, or ever have to go to work to pay for a mortgage. I am smart). That is what idiots think!
How do I know what idiots think? I was one! For 62 years from birth, I was a believing, whole souled devoted human zombie, that listened and acted on everything JW..org said. They told me it all came from God and because they said it with such conviction... I wrongly believed them.
Sorry Yoko N that this is so long. Did not mean it to be. Japanese people are known to be good, honest hearted, humble people which equates to JW..org seeing them as sitting ducks for their propaganda purposes. (Give us your money and we will promise you anything).
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Elusive response from Japan's Branch
by yoko N inan active jw living in tokyo is expressing extreme hate in twitter to those who are in different religion, admirers of musicians, those who love toplay air soft guns.. linkpeople who saw it got angry and exposed his real name,congregation where his associating with, his address, his professionon the internet.. linkthis guy wouldn’t stop expressing hate, so somebody spread softdrinks and gambages in front of the porch of his house.causing some uproar.some jws are writing, calling,sending fax to japan’s branch office tostop this man,because this cause bad reputation about jws as a whole.. branch office keep denying accepting letter, fax.they are saying they don’t know anything about the disturbance.a little newspaper on the internet wrote the article about this,.
linkand branch offices finally admitted accepting a letter of complaint.--------“ did you accept the letter we sent you?branch :yes-----did you read it?branch: no, man in charge should read it.---are you not in charge ?branch: no ------where the man in charge?branch: he is not available right now.. -------when can i talk to that person?
branch: i don’t knowthis kind of elusive conversation is going on and on and on.growing number of people is aware of the incident,and calling to the branch.disgusted of their elusive attitude.this keeps going.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
I posted last night and my message is still swirling around the universe...
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Best statement a householder made to get you to leave them alone.
by Esse quam videri inknocked on a door on a saturday morning.
a window opened on the floor above me.
a grizzled old man stuck his head out and said, " we're all heathens here!
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LoisLane looking for Superman
I am the best lover you will ever have. Come right inside...
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When you were an active WT door knocker... How did you knock?
by LoisLane looking for Superman inon the door frame, on the door, door knocker, bell.. loud, very loud, regular, soft... gentle... or just pretended and never knocked at all?
we just had a city worker come a knocking on our front door and my responce after she left was, she should go down to the local kingdom haul and give lessons.
her knock was so loud, she could raise the dead.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
@RebelFighter. WT/JW..Org taught all of us that we are NOT solicitors. Oh, my. Such a dirty word! But what else were we untimately doing?
We were brainwashed to think we were doing a noble cause in the name of god Jehovah. We were taking the time out of our busy day to bring these heathen people a life saving message. What a load of you know what.
We were there as brain washed zombies, regurgitating what we had been repetedly told what to Believe, how to Believe and how to deliver the same message to unsuspecting householders.
That is rather funny you telling them to learn to read. lol
WT blantantly teaches it's followers to LIE. We got a territory map, went to that location and tried to "sell" the WT religion. But we are not supposed to say selling. And heavens above. Never use the word recruiting. lol We are supposed to say... We are calling on our neighbors, sharing a scriptural thought, just as you mentioned. So what the heck were we doing, if not trying to find equally guillible people. We wern't selling Encyclopedia's door to door. We were basically cold calling on strangers trying to sell WT literature, hoping to con other unsuspecting lonely people into the con game as well. We are "placing" the literature, not "selling" it... Huh??? But then there was a change up. Only asking for donations now. Before we were asking for the printing cost to be covered. WT JW..Org is a shameful sham of a so called, Christian religion.
Thank you everyone for sharing (your joy in the ministry... lol) how you contacted the householder.